[Vrstream] Counterpoint to 2nd Generation Stream was Re: AVerydetailed second generation Victor Reader Stream review

Russ Kiehne russ94577 at gmail.com
Sat Apr 18 09:55:30 EDT 2015


        I'm wondering with the Ios devices being able to do the same thing 
as specialized players, are the manufactures seeing a drop in sales?

-----Original Message----- 
From: Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 10:55 AM
To: Jim Barbour
Cc: vrstream at vrstreamusers.org
Subject: Re: [Vrstream] Counterpoint to 2nd Generation Stream was Re: 
AVerydetailed second generation Victor Reader Stream review

Jim,

Very wise words indeed.

I'm a big believer in the adage different strokes for different folks and 
fully agree that dedicated devices do a better job at the task to which they 
are dedicated than do multipurpose devices such as an iPhone. But if you can 
only afford one device or if you're on the move a good bit and only want to 
tote one device, I strongly recommend an iPhone.

Its very nice to be at the coffee shop right now checking and replying to 
email, talking on the phone, listening to music, and reading books and doing 
it all with my iPhone which is easy to carry in my pocket. And I love the 
convenience of the apple earpods where I can control my reading and other 
functions at the touch of its remote button and also easily change the 
volume.

We're very fortunate that we have so many devices from which to choose in 
this day and age.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 17, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't go so far as to say down with touchscreens. BTW, neither did 
> Lana.  Since touch screens can be configured by software, they can do much 
> more than a set of buttons.  Plus, they're much cheaper to use and 
> support, which means the cost of a touchscreen device can be controlled.
>
> However, there are products that some people just want to be on single use 
> devices.  For me, that's my media player.  For others, it's their GPS or 
> even the device they make phone calls on.
>
> I do think that single use devices are becoming a luxury purchase. That's 
> why the advice "if you have to buy one, buy an iDevice", is so true.  If 
> you can only afford to buy one device, but the one that does the most 
> stuff.
>
> Jim
>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 09:25:30AM -0600, lana wrote:
>>       And it comes down to buttons with clear functions that stay where
>> they are supposed to be and don't have to be flicked for or slid for, or
>> whatever. Leet's all give a cheer for buttons!
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Barbour
>> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 8:12 AM
>> To: Russ Kiehne
>> Cc: vrstream at vrstreamusers.org
>> Subject: Re: [Vrstream] Counterpoint to 2nd Generation Stream was Re: A
>> Verydetailed second generation Victor Reader Stream review
>>
>> It has been covered before, and is very true, that Idevices will Play all
>> the content your stream will play. What this comes down to for me is how 
>> big
>> the iPad is, it's battery life, and my ability to use it while doing 
>> other
>> things.
>>
>> I really like the battery life I get from the stream, more so than what I
>> can get from my phone. Plus, I am able to clip my stream to my belt and
>> easily navigate within a book, switch books, etc. This is all doable with 
>> my
>> phone, but not as easily.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Written While on the Move
>>
>>> On Apr 17, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94577 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alan,
>>>
>>> I took a lot of time thinking about buying a second generation Victor
>>> Reader Stream.  Listening to several podcasts, it would be my player of
>>> choice if it's not for the fact using the following apps on my ipad 
>>> mini,
>>> I can do everything I would do with a second generation Stream.
>>>
>>> Bard mobile: I can read nls books on it.  Books can be directly
>>> downloaded to the ipad mini.
>>>
>>> Audible: I can read books from audible.  Books can be directly
>>> downloaded to the ipad mini.
>>>
>>> Kindle: I can read Kindle books from Amazon.
>>>
>>> Learning Ally: I can read books from Learning Ally.  I can directly
>>> download
>>> books to my Ipad mini.
>>>
>>> Boice dream reader: I can read books from bookshare,  unprotected epub.
>>> Supported File Formats
>>> PDF, EPUB (DRM free), DAISY 3.0 text-based eBooks, DAISY 2.02 
>>> audiobooks,
>>> Zipped MP3 files, such as LibriVox, Plain Text, Rich Text Format (RTF),
>>> Microsoft Word, Microsoft PowerPoint, Apple Pages, Apple Keynote, HTML,
>>> What's nice about voice dream reader, you can download books from both
>>> bookshare
>>> and Project Gutenberg directly to the ipad mini.  Voice dream reader is
>>> supplied with Acapela Heather.  You have the optionof using Neospeech or
>>> Ivona.
>>> Personally, I like Neospeech better than Acapela.  I haven't tried Ivona
>>> as
>>> of yet.
>>>
>>> LibriVox audio books pro: I can stream or download books from
>>> LibriVox or a large selection of old time radio shows.  The thing I like
>>> about this app, it will resume playback when streaming content.
>>>
>>> Downcast: I can download podcasts directly to the ipad mini.  I
>>> can subscribe and unsubscribe to podcasts on the Ipad mini.
>>>
>>> Youtube:  I can use the Google youtube app to watch videos on my ipad
>>> mini.
>>>
>>> Tune in radio pro: TuneIn lets you listen to and record the world’s 
>>> radio
>>> with
>>> sports, news, talk and music streaming from every continent. Enjoy 
>>> 100,000
>>> live radio stations and 2 million podcasts, concerts or shows on your
>>> iPhone, iPad and
>>> iPod.  Record your favorite stream.
>>>
>>> ooTunes: Radio - Recording and Alarm Clock!  INFINITE Tunes, Talk, 
>>> Sports,
>>> and
>>> Entertainment Radio.  over 36,000 web radio stations.
>>>
>>> It has both great sound and battery life.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:01 PM
>>> To: Russ Kiehne
>>> Cc: <vrstream at vrstreamusers.org>
>>> Subject: Counterpoint to 2nd Generation Stream was Re: [Vrstream] A Very
>>> detailed second generation Victor Reader Stream review
>>>
>>> Russ,
>>>
>>> Thanks for this. I understand about preferring a dedicated book reader
>>> like the second generation stream but I have to disagree with something
>>> the podcaster said in this review. He said something about not wanting 
>>> to
>>> use his iPhone because he would have to pull it out in order to access 
>>> its
>>> touch screen I guess. My counterpoint argument would be that even though
>>> the stream's buttons could be accessed with the stream in a pocket or
>>> tucked away, you would have to tote both a stream and a phone to have
>>> access to phone service.
>>>
>>> I'm still very glad that I opted to get an iPhone rather than a second
>>> generation stream because with my iPhone I was able to read the email 
>>> from
>>> Russ, listen to the podcast included in the email link, and compose and
>>> send this email. I realize the iPhone has a steeper learning curve than 
>>> a
>>> second generation stream but that's a learning curve well worth climbing
>>> especially if you already have an iPhone.
>>>
>>> Alan Lemly
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Apr 16, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94577 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here's a Victor Stream demo:
>>>> https://soundcloud.com/aaronlinson/victor-reader-stream-demo
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