[Vrstream] new member with quite a few questions

Jim Barbour jbar at barcore.com
Sat Apr 18 17:43:34 EDT 2015


Sorry, to be clear, the stream cannot put exfat or ntfs formatting onto a card.

Jim

Written While on the Move

> On Apr 18, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Joshua Hendrickson <louvins at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That's not true.  My 64 GB sd cards weren't fat32, and my stream
> formatted them just fine.
> 
>> On 4/18/15, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>> The stream cannot format  sd cards with either ntfs or exfat. Only vfat
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> Written While on the Move
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Joshua Hendrickson <louvins at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> yes, the first gen stream can format xfat.  I think its NTFS the
>>> stream might have problems with.
>>> 
>>>> On 4/18/15, rajmund <brajmund2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Can the stream format EXFAT?
>>>> 
>>>>   Sent from the BrailleNote
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tom Rutherford" <tom.n8euj at gmail.com
>>>> To: "'rajmund'"
>>>> <brajmund2000 at gmail.com>,<adriencollins22160 at gmail.com>,<vrstream
>>>> @vrstreamusers.org
>>>> Date sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:48:45 -0400
>>>> Subject: RE: [Vrstream] new member with quite a few questions
>>>> 
>>>> That would be SDXC.  <grin!>  But, if the Stream gives you a
>>>> Media Error 3
>>>> or a "No Media" message, it's probably exFAT.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 73 DE Tom, N8EUJ, Burton, MI
>>>> "She said it was either her or the ham radio.  Over."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000 at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 1:26 PM
>>>> To: Tom Rutherford; brajmund2000 at gmail.com;
>>>> adriencollins22160 at gmail.com;
>>>> vrstream at vrstreamusers.org
>>>> Subject: RE: [Vrstream] new member with quite a few questions
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I believe, its a XCSD, but not sure what format.  Stream
>>>> recognised it, though.
>>>> 
>>>>   Sent from the BrailleNote
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tom Rutherford" <tom.n8euj at gmail.com
>>>> To: "'rajmund'" <brajmund2000 at gmail.com>,"'Adrien Collins'"
>>>> <adriencollins22160 at gmail.com>,<vrstream at vrstreamusers.org
>>>> Date sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 13:21:52 -0400
>>>> Subject: RE: [Vrstream] new member with quite a few questions
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not a Braillenote user, but I can tell you that transferring
>>>> data
>>>> between the Stream and a PC can be done using the long cable.
>>>> There's a
>>>> certain sequence that you have to use to have the Stream
>>>> recognized as an
>>>> external drive, but the problem is that transferring files that
>>>> way is
>>>> abysmally slow.  Also, if the SD card is formatted as exFAT, the
>>>> Stream will
>>>> not recognize it.  However, the Stream will format a 64GB card to
>>>> FAT32, but
>>>> then, you'll lose everything on it.  When you put the card in, it
>>>> will say,
>>>> "No media", but when you go through the menu to the "Format SD
>>>> Card" entry,
>>>> the Stream will format it to FAT32.  Hope this helps.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 73 DE Tom, N8EUJ, Burton, MI
>>>> "She said it was either her or the ham radio.  Over."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000 at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:09 PM
>>>> To: Adrien Collins; brajmund2000 at gmail.com; tom.n8euj at gmail.com;
>>>> vrstream at vrstreamusers.org
>>>> Subject: RE: [Vrstream] new member with quite a few questions
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> The braillenote from humanware doesn't recognise my sd card,
>>>> though.  And, I only have the user guide at this point, at
>>>> therefore, it is a bug.  I have also asked someone (who is not on
>>>> the list) uses a US firmware, much younger than mine, but the
>>>> same result.  But, a question.  Braillenote users, can the stream
>>>> act like a hard disk with the braillenote?
>>>> 
>>>>   Sent from the BrailleNote
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22160 at gmail.com
>>>> To: "'rajmund'" <brajmund2000 at gmail.com>,"'Tom Rutherford'"
>>>> <tom.n8euj at gmail.com>,<vrstream at vrstreamusers.org
>>>> Date sent: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 22:05:19 +0200
>>>> Subject: RE: [Vrstream] new member with quite a few questions
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Rajmond
>>>> 
>>>> The pitch for the user guide and the pitch on the stream
>>>> itself are separate, if you change the pitch to listen to a
>>>> book, it does not affect the pitch for the user guide, they
>>>> are completely separate, this is not a bug but an
>>>> intentional thing in the design of the stream.  You don't
>>>> need to clean the sd card off to up-date the stream,
>>>> download the file, copy it to the sd card, put the sd card
>>>> back into the stream, plug the stream into the mains
>>>> electricity and power the stream back on, it will up-date.
>>>> If you get stuck, give us a shout.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Adrien
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Vrstream [mailto:vrstream-bounces at vrstreamusers.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of rajmund
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:31 PM
>>>> To: Tom Rutherford; vrstream at vrstreamusers.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vrstream] new member with quite a few
>>>> questions
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Tom,
>>>> I do have Samantha, but instead of Tom, we have Daniel.
>>>> Once I
>>>> get my braille sense back, I will be able to take the data
>>>> off
>>>> the sd card, and update the stream, and all that.  I
>>>> believe, its
>>>> running 3.0.6, if that existed.  So far, though, I had no
>>>> problems with the speakers.  I have one thing, that is
>>>> bugging
>>>> me, however.  I exit the user guide,
>>>> try Daniel, return to Samantha, and reopen the guide.  Even
>>>> though the unit says that I'm on pitch 7, she sounds nothing
>>>> like
>>>> pitch 7.  So, I then have to lower it, and get it back up.
>>>> However, the rate is not effected.  Is that fixed in the new
>>>> 
>>>> firmware?
>>>>   Sent from the BrailleNote
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tom Rutherford" <tom.n8euj at gmail.com
>>>> To: "'rajmund'"
>>>> <brajmund2000 at gmail.com>,<vrstream at vrstreamusers.org
>>>> Date sent: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 13:18:03 -0400
>>>> Subject: RE: [Vrstream]  new member with quite a few
>>>> questions
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, Rajmund.
>>>> 
>>>> Well, if it's got Daniel, it's the UK version of the
>>>> firmware.  I
>>>> forget now
>>>> what the female voice is, but it isn't Samantha.  But,
>>>> anyway,
>>>> I'm glad you
>>>> found a pitch and speed that you're okay with.  It's too bad
>>>> you
>>>> don't have
>>>> a PC.  You need to get with someone who has a PC so that you
>>>> can
>>>> do a couple
>>>> of things.  The first thing you want to do is make sure
>>>> you're
>>>> running the
>>>> last version of firmware written for the old Stream, which
>>>> is
>>>> version 3.5.4.
>>>> You can get it on humanware.com in their support section if
>>>> it's
>>>> not already
>>>> up to date.  But, other than the crummy little speaker, the
>>>> original Stream
>>>> is a solid piece of equipment.  You'll love the way music
>>>> sounds
>>>> on it if
>>>> you have a decent set of headphones or powered speakers.  As
>>>> for
>>>> only
>>>> getting English out of the thing, maybe it's only the North
>>>> American
>>>> Samantha and Tom version that has the Mandarin Chinese
>>>> serial
>>>> number at the
>>>> end when you hit 0 three times quickly without an SD card.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 73 DE Tom, N8EUJ, Burton, MI
>>>> "She said it was either her or the ham radio.  Over."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000 at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 3:31 PM
>>>> To: Tom Rutherford; brajmund2000 at gmail.com;
>>>> vrstream at vrstreamusers.org
>>>> Subject: RE: [Vrstream] new member with quite a few
>>>> questions
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Tom,
>>>> Hmm, this one said interesting things, but only in English.
>>>> I
>>>> think its running English firmware, which uses Daniel
>>>> (sounds
>>>> terrible) and Samantha, who isn't that bad, at pitch 7, and
>>>> rate
>>>> 10.  Yes, I like high pitches.  Thanks for the sd tip, but
>>>> currently, I don't have anything that would read my 64 gb sd
>>>> card
>>>> to save the things off it, and I don't have a pc, either.  I
>>>> have
>>>> found the user guide, but this is all new to me.
>>>>   Sent from the BrailleNote
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tom Rutherford" <tom.n8euj at gmail.com
>>>> To: "'rajmund'"
>>>> <brajmund2000 at gmail.com>,<vrstream at vrstreamusers.org
>>>> Date sent: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 15:10:47 -0400
>>>> Subject: RE: [Vrstream]  new member with quite a few
>>>> questions
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, Rajmund.  In addition to what Jim told you, if you're
>>>> talking
>>>> about the
>>>> voice that says, "Welcome to Victor Reader" when you power
>>>> it up,
>>>> he's not a
>>>> synthesizer.  He's Blair Stainton, a Canadian actor.  But,
>>>> you
>>>> have either
>>>> Samantha or Tom for your other voice.  They're Vocalizer
>>>> voices,
>>>> and they
>>>> don't sound all that good.  The 2nd-gen.  Stream uses
>>>> Acapella
>>>> voices Heather
>>>> and Ryan if you have the North American English firmware.
>>>> But,
>>>> if you have
>>>> the North American English firmware for the 1st-gen.
>>>> Stream,
>>>> it's Samantha
>>>> and Tom.  But, I don't think you can speed any of the voices
>>>> up
>>>> except when
>>>> they're reading text to you.
>>>> 
>>>> There is a built-in User Guide on the Stream, either
>>>> version.
>>>> Press and
>>>> hold the "1" key until you hear "User Guide", then release
>>>> it.
>>>> Once it
>>>> comes up, you can navigate through it using the "6" key to
>>>> navigate forward
>>>> and the "4" key to navigate backward.  You can set various
>>>> levels
>>>> of
>>>> navigation by using the "2" and "8" keys.
>>>> 
>>>> BTW, before you start trying to put content on an SD card,
>>>> put a
>>>> fresh SD
>>>> card in the Stream and it will create the folders
>>>> automatically
>>>> for you.
>>>> Then, you can put DAISY books in $VRDTB, MP3 books in
>>>> $VROtherBooks, music
>>>> in $VRMusic, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope this helps.  I have one of the original Streams, and
>>>> I
>>>> still love it.
>>>> I can't see buying a new one while this one still works.  I
>>>> did
>>>> buy a
>>>> Stratus, though, because I liked the bigger speaker and the
>>>> built-in optical
>>>> disc reader.  (They call it a CD reader, but it will also
>>>> read
>>>> audio DVDs.
>>>> I haven't tried a Blu-Ray disc in it yet, but I kind of
>>>> doubt it
>>>> would read
>>>> one of those.)  BTW, if you hit the "0" key three times fast
>>>> with
>>>> no SD card
>>>> in it, it will tell you all kinds of interesting things
>>>> about
>>>> your Stream,
>>>> including the serial number in Mandarin Chinese.  I am not
>>>> kidding.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 73 DE Tom, N8EUJ, Burton, MI
>>>> "She said it was either her or the ham radio.  Over."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Vrstream [mailto:vrstream-bounces at vrstreamusers.org]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> rajmund
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 11:21 AM
>>>> To: vrstream at vrstreamusers.org
>>>> Subject: [Vrstream] new member with quite a few questions
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> Yes, I have never posted here, but I have just got my hand
>>>> on a
>>>> stream.  question 1.  How do I find out what type it is? No,
>>>> it
>>>> hasn't got wifi.  And it still uses vocaliser voices, but
>>>> that's
>>>> as far as I got.
>>>> Question 2.  How do I speed up the main synthesizer, the guy
>>>> who
>>>> reads the menu items? Just to give you an idea where I'm
>>>> wanting
>>>> to go, I got the humanware braillenote to rate 16.  Is there
>>>> a
>>>> smilar setting with them synths? question 3.  How do I open
>>>> the
>>>> bookshelf, and things like that? Do I need to put content
>>>> into it
>>>> on an sd card before I can do that?
>>>> Many thanks for any answers
>>>> Rajmund
>>>> 
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